Saturday 10 October 2009

#SADS015* - TELEGRAPH BOOKER 10-Oct-09

#SADS015* - TELEGRAPH BOOKER 10-Oct-09

The SUNDAY TELEGRAPH by: Christopher BOOKER 11-Oct-09

Adoption system is UK's shameful secret
Britain is the only country in Europe where children are routinely removed from their parents without consent, says Christopher Booker


By Christopher Booker
Published: 7:08PM BST 10 Oct 2009



This week I return to one of the most disturbing stories this column has ever reported. It began on a morning in April 2007 when the home of a respectable middle-class family in Sussex was overrun by 18 policemen and two RSPCA officials, supposedly looking for guns. When the father, a professional dog breeder, volubly protested, he and his pregnant wife were arrested and handcuffed, to the horror of their watching five-year old daughter (whom I call, for legal reasons, "Jenny").

East Sussex social workers were then called to remove the little girl. Her mother had a miscarriage while in custody and returned to an empty home, left in chaos. Jenny has remained in foster care ever since, and despite her parents pleading for her return through 74 legal hearings, the ruling by a family court judge last March that she be put out for adoption was upheld in July by the Appeal Court.

Having now seen further documents relating to this saga, I can understand why the family's GP wrote that in 33 years as a doctor he had never come across "such an appalling case of injustice". The first document was her parents' careful chronology of every step in the story, including transcriptions of many of their telephone conversations and meetings with Jenny, invariably under strict surveillance by social workers or the foster carer.

The dominant impression from these recordings is of Jenny's desperation to be reunited with her parents, and of an increasingly distraught child who cannot understand what has been done to her. The parents claim that pressure was put on her constantly to say that she didn't want to see them again. Why did the family court judge not allow this evidence to be heard in court, although she did admit accounts of these "contacts" by the social workers?

A second document is the judgment by Mr Justice Bodey in the Appeal Court confirming that Jenny must be put out for adoption. No evidence had been produced that her parents ever caused Jenny physical or mental harm. His ruling centred on two points. One was evidence that her home was a mess on the day of the raid, although those who knew the house well testify that it was normally clean and tidy. The other was that, when the family's home was invaded by 18 policemen (a figure confirmed by one policeman in evidence), the father verbally abused them in colourful fashion (but didn't attack them physically). Are these really adequate grounds for tearing a child and her parents permanently apart?

A third document is the book Forced Abduction by Ian Josephs, a businessman who has taken an active interest in the removal of children from their parents by social workers ever since he was a Tory county councillor in the 1960s. He acted in part of the Jenny case as a "Mackenzie friend", that is, an informal assistant and adviser.

Mr Josephs shows that Britain is almost the only country in Europe which routinely allows children to be separated from parents without their consent. Indeed, he reproduces a press release put out in 2003 by Hammersmith & Fulham Council boasting how, under a Local Public Service Agreement, it had received a reward of £500,000 from central government for hitting its target of 101 adoptions in the year. This particular, highly controversial scheme of cash bonuses has, thankfully, since been abandoned.

The impression given by these documents supports the GP's view that this is an "appalling case of injustice". Social workers, lawyers and judges seem enmeshed in a system heavily skewed towards putting children out for adoption – by a process so shrouded in secrecy that it seems designed more to protect the system itself than the interests of the child. Most alarming of all is that there seems no one with the authority to intervene in cases such as Jenny's, where that system appears to have left both a loving family and justice horribly betrayed.


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Comments: 9

What is the difference between a Rottweiler and a social worker?
You will get your child back from a Rottweiler.
The Hitler's Nazis had the brown shirts and the SS to do their dirty works. Brittan and Australia now have the RSPCA. No government would do this as it would be political suicide so they get a "well respected" "caring charity" to do it for them. The World is becomming fascist. Hitler is alive and well in England and Australia. It is now pet lovers, not the Jews, that must be prepared to emigrate to a safe haven. The new Israel will be the first country that allows people to OWN their pets and, not just be their "carers" managed and supervised by a private "charity".
Digger09
on October 11, 2009
at 10:00 AM


Well said Caroline.
Sadly, there are a great number of British parents that need to be removed from their children.
More sadly is that we have to do it the other way around for the sake of the children.
The trouble is the body in charge of doing these unpleasant things does not always get it right and that is the nub of the problem.
Britain carries far too many Jobsworths for it's own good. British people seem to have a need to look up to somebody or other and will follow blindly. The Blair years are demonstrable proof of far down a Country can go in a relatively short space of time. We need real leadership with people at the top setting the right example.
The Mps expenses scandal has blown the lid off leadership, may be for ever. I wish Cameron luck but he should beware that NOT identifying with being British may well be his downfall.
However, this probably does not sit well with the NuLabour/EU friendlies out there.
C.Brooks
on October 11, 2009
at 09:54 AM

I left Britain 12 years ago, thoroughly disillusioned after my Asian wife and I were turned down for adoption because we were 'racially naive' (ie we said we had experienced no racial problems in our home county of Norfolk). The case received a lot of publicity, and I was left with two over-riding impresssions of The System: 1) That Social Services are out of control; 2) That there are many more sinister cases which never see the light of day, often hidden by the 'respect for confidentially' - so convenient for the power-mad social engineers who run The System. The politicians made all kinds of promises to reign them in, but as we see, as usual this has come to naught.
To emigrate was the best decision I ever made. If anyone wants to join me in lovely central Portugal, contact me to find out how.
James Lawrence
on October 11, 2009
at 09:47 AM

"Caroline" are you by any chance carrying Stalin's brain?
dominic lennon
on October 10, 2009
at 11:07 PM
Report this commentI tend to agree with Jackthesmilingblack. I left UK 10 years ago because I could not face living in a country so bereft of its own sense of identity. The intervening years have only reinforced the correctness of my decision. Britain is now an open sewer of political correctness, small minded bureaucracy, and an obsession with race. Any right minded person would just have to leave. I have renounced my British citizenship and insist to everyone who asks that I am not British, even though I sound like it. I truly hope David Cameron can make a difference, but I fear the problem is now with the Brits themselves. They are a shallow people, the great heroes of the past must be looking on with contempt.
Kev Cooper
on October 10, 2009
at 10:56 PM

Why doesn't a national newspaper mount a campaign ? How is it that social workers can kidnap children ?

Why doesn't the Misister for Children or Harriet Harman intervene and show she cares about humanity?

This country is as bad as any communist state and nothing ever gets done to stop it. That is why extremist parties will gain votes.
Darren Himmler , Brentwood Essex
on October 10, 2009
at 10:19 PM

This is state-sponsored kidnap. Any populace with a notion of civil liberties would have taken it to the street by now, burning local government offices and police stations to the ground. But not those "take it in the ass" losers in UK. Truly Britisher pals, your best, indeed only option is to hate it and leave it. While you still can.

Jackthesmilingblack
on October 10, 2009
at 10:00 PM

Well Booker
If you make proceedings
public what you will "achieve " is that children will not be able to disclose. They will not disclose out of love and they will not disclose out of fear. Well done super. Lots of children will end up remaining with abusive and or neglectful parents. We have much too high a tolerance for neglect in this country. Other countries may leave children nominally in their parents care ,but not in their homes. They end up long term fostered. This is good for the foster parents who get paid, but offers no emotional security for the child. They are forever obliged to take notice of the emotional needs of inadequate parents.
These are not matters for your personal ambition Booker. Put a journalistic sock in it.
Caroline
on October 10, 2009
at 08:47 PM

Christopher, have you sent this to the President of the Family Division? If not you should, along with an ultimatum that he hold a no-holds barred investigation into this case or you will ask the UN Commissioner for Children to investigate. The resulting report would no doubt be hideously embarrassing.

You should also send these documents to the local police force, and ask them to investigate whether there is sufficient evidence to charge the social workers with child abduction.

To View The Original Article CLICK HERE
ALSO:

Hi,

Yet more about StolenKids can be found in general at:
http://stolenkids-bloggers.blogspot.com/
& in specific at:
http://stolenkids-sads.blogspot.com/

Story after story about children seized by The Social Services. Yes of course they get it right on lots of occasions but due to secrecy of Courts & procedures to protect them they can get away with this obscene behaviour.

StolenKids is for people who have been abused by the Courts & Civil Servants IN OUR NAME; there they can air their own story for help, support or just for catharsis.

By drawing back the curtains to let the light in, and opening the windows to let fresh air in, you can help these unfortunate people to gain Justice.

Help expose the vile behaviour of Courts, Police & Social Services when they occur and also examples where they got it spot on when they occur!

It is up to us to help make sure our society functions and children get the very best.

Regards,
Greg L-W.


I further commented:

Gladiatrix - with respect is it not OUR duty to take these actions and thank Reporters for Reporting?

Caroline - you are quite right, in a communist country, or you will note from The Lisbon Constitution in Britain also secrecy is the cloak behind which state crime is conducted and the State machine takes control of our lives.

Your summary is bunkum - it is ONLY with exposure that such criminal State activities are overturned.

With your duplicitous advice Thalidomide victims would never have gained compensation, or do you not remember Harold Evans. Was it not the reporters of The Washington Post who exposed the criminality of Richard Nixon?

The more light and fresh air Booker can let in the better - I have known him for many years & respect his lack of personal ambition at the expense of innocent victims.

As for the family concerned I have tried to support them since their daughter was first seized and there has NEVER been any claim EVER that was in any way sustainable that they have or ever would do anything other than spoil their daughter and both love and care for her.

There are clear and unequivocal independent expert medical reports that their daughter HAS been traumatised and harmed by the system.

As an uninformed critic may I suggest the sock is best placed in your opinions, but unlike the parents you have a fundamental human right of freedom of speech!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
http://StolenKids-Bloggers.blogspot.com



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Friday 4 September 2009

#SADS014* - SADS JUDGEMENT 08-July-2009

#SADS014* - SADS JUDGEMENT 08-July-2009

Herewith below:

The Full Judgement of the case

No.: B4/2009/0755

~~~ B4/2009/0775

heard on 08-July-2009

In: The Supreme Court of Judicature
Court of Appeal (Civil Division)

On Appeal from The Brighton County Court


(His Honour Judge Coates)


EACH OF THE EIGHT (8) PAGES BELOW
CAN BE ENLARGED TO READ

IN THEIR ORIGINAL TEXT
By: DOUBLE CLICKING on its text.

as supplied to the parents of the kidnapped child
by The Courts who seemingly without a single item of evidence being led to show that harm had EVER come to the child at the hands of the parents and in the pretence that The RSPCA, The Police, The Social Services and the various self defined expert witnesses of the court & The SS were acquitting their duty in the best interest of anyone but themselves.

It is a clear intent stated in the spirit of the care of children that the removal of a child from its natural parent must be shown to be indubitably in the best interest of the child.

This has clearly failed to be proven as no evidence has ever been led that harm had EVER come to the child at the hands of either parent.

It is also understood that adoption shall be considered as a last resort.

This child has NEVER had the opportunity of return to its home which has been shown to be both loving and caring.

This child has bee abused by the system in a manner which has brought much public revulsion at the venality of the system in its own interests to cover its very clear errors.

Judges have in Court openly criticised the Social Services and their method of behaviour in this region:
Lord Justice Wall described East Sussex's behaviour as 'disgraceful?

Do please read the details as enumerated in The Official Full Judgement as supplied Officially by The Court - being the shameful Judgement of:

Lord Justice Thorpe
&

Lord Justice Longmore

sitting with Mr. Justice Bodey


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Tuesday 25 August 2009

#SADS013 - Added to The Sunday Telegraph today

Added to The Sunday Telegraph today:

Hi,

thanks again to the Sunday Telegraph and Booker in particular for their valued and well placed tennacity in this case.

It may interest some that despite Mr. Hendre (MP)'s involvement, that the case was brought to The PM's attention in PMQs several weeks ago and that I have known this couple ever since they first contacted me for help some 2 years ago - NO ONE seems able to obtain honest, straight, simple answers as to WHY was the child effectively kidnapped.

Are East Sussex SS and the Family Court, like the police, no longer answerable to either our elected politicians nor even our Prime Minister?

I was asked by another MP involved to take care NOT to upset the Courts and to refrain from drawing attention to the corruption of The EU 'As our best chance of cleaning up our corrupt system was via Europe'.

This an MP who draws a salary at Westminster wishes to use The Human Rights Courts
to 'clean up Britain' - was that not what MPs used to be paid for?
Further there is some bizarre belief that the corrupt and centralised EU might administer some sort of Justice!

Firstly the EU doesn't 'do' Justice - it doesn't even do Democracy - Note Ireland where they democratically voted against Lisbon as did France and Holland but they are being forced to vote again to get it right!

Yet the killings, intimidation, murders and vote rigging in Afghanistan is pronounced acceptable!

Do NOT look to The EU for Justice, save in its abuse!

May I also remind the MP in question that the European Courts of Human Rights are neither under the control of nor any part of the corrupt EU!

It may further horrify the reader that this morning the Mother in question phoned me to tell me that she was being denied her Court approved visitation.

One can only assume as an act of punishment for the publicity!

Told that her 7 year old who had NEVER refused to see them and who had been whispering please could she have their phone number at the last meeting - the little girl stolen from her parents without even trumpped up cause when she was only 5 at the last meeting said she didn't care if she was adopted as she would just run away and find her way home!

ALLEGEDLY so say the SS had declined to see her parents!!

Advised that there was a letter relevant The Father decided to visit the SS offices to collect the letter, only to find there was no letter but The Guardian, the SS, etc. etc. were all in a meeting when he was told they were not in the building - this he ascertained from the car number plates in the car park.

It does look as if East Sussex are only likely not to lie when in their coffins - may I submit it is time to bury this clearly corrupt organisation and release the children they have stolen - read the case of Legoman whom it seems East Sussex swore on a stack of bibles had deliberately broken his own childs leg, leading to all three of his children being taken prisoner by the SS - it transpires now, long after the event that when investigated by an INDEPENDENT DOCTOR his baby has a bone disease!

East Sussex is still hanging onto his children, no doubt having frantic meetings to dream up further cover stories.

The SS and the State would seem to be some of the worst parents and guardians on record - one need only consider the fact that so many seem to consider the buggery and rape of children in their care to be a perk of the job - read Waterhouse 'Lost In Care' The report of 'Kincorra Boys School' the abuses at QVS in Dunblane, New Labour's buddy on Hackney Council Mark trotter, Tony Blair's constituency agent (Trotter as head of children's services is now dead of AIDS having been sent to prison for servicing too many children!) (Blair's agent is in prison for the rape and sodomy of boys and girls in his care) - the list is long!

However consider TODAY - when 80% of the British born who are in prison were at some stage or throughout childhood in the care of Social Services and over 40% of under age prostitutes are currently in care!

Is it that in the gross cases such children with broken limbs, haunted looks, mal nourished and covered in cigarette burns are hard to place for adoption whilst pleasant cared for children are more easily and more profitably fitted in the quota?
Consider the couple in Plymouth who have had 6 cared for children stolen including from the delivery room - and despite some 90 hearings no reason has been clearly given yet the easier ones have been forced into adoption against the parents will and with no clear reason show!

The entire incident stems from asking for a second opinion before bone marrow tests were done on their eldest! It transpired that the Doctor was a regular witness for the SS and he took umbrage and took ALL the children into care and forced the child to have the test!!

She was found NOT to have any bone marrow defect, merely a condition the parents told him before hand which was familial!

They are still fighting for Justice for their children.

We try to provide self help at:

http://StolenKids-Bloggers.blogspot.com but for us it is early days - one MP we deal with has almost 600 similar cases, of relatively different strength but it is rare that the SS and the courts acting in shameful secrecy prove the best solution.

It is time not just to draw back the curtain on this secrecy but to throw open the windows to let in fresh air and the light of truth to ALL SS and Family Court cases.

Only two thing outside of marriage require closed doors and secrecy and they are pornography and pederasty and what is happening with the Family Courts particularly as identified in East Sussex is both obscene and an abuse of children!

IF you need help just visit the blog!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
http://GregLanceWatkins.blogspot.com

To see the full article CLICK HERE

Many other excellent comments by Ian Josephs and others.

Sunday 23 August 2009

SADS012 - S.Tel. - 23-Aug-2009 - Christopher BOOKER

Sunday Telegraph - 23-Aug-2009 - Christopher BOOKER

'Secret agenda to score adoptions'

Lord Justice Wall
described East Sussex's behaviour as 'disgraceful?

Photo: UPPA

A judge has condemned the "disgraceful" conduct of social workers over an adoption case, says Christopher Booker.

By Christopher Booker
22 Aug 2009


The revealing of the names of those responsible for the killing of Baby P reminded us yet again of the failure of Haringey social workers to avert the child's death. What a shocking contrast this provides to the behaviour of East Sussex social workers in the case I reported a month ago, which led to their seizure and putting out for adoption of a girl, now seven years old, from a respectable middle-class home, to the anguish of both her parents and the little girl herself.

The chief reason offered by the social workers for abducting the girl two years ago was that her home had been left in an appalling mess after a raid by RSPCA officials and 18 policemen. They ransacked the premises looking for non-existent guns, and released into the house a pack of dogs kept in kennels outside by her father, a professional dog-breeder. The parents were arrested for protesting at what was happening (the mother suffering a miscarriage while in police custody) and the social workers were summoned to remove their daughter.


Everything about this case is bizarre, not least the apparent complicity of social workers, lawyers and the courts in determining that the child should not be returned to her parents, as she wishes, but rather, after two years in foster care, sent for adoption.

I have now been able to read through many papers relating to the case, including the judgments resulting from the 74 hearings in which the parents attempted to get their daughter back. What stands out is the startling contrast between the two totally different versions of the case given by the social workers and the courts on one hand and, on the other, that presented by the parents themselves and by many who knew them. The latter include their GP, who recently wrote that he had never "encountered such a case of appalling injustice".

The most impressive document was a report by an independent social worker, based on many interviews with those involved, including the child herself and the chief social worker in charge of her. In measured terms, this made mincemeat of the council's case. Nothing about it is more suspicious than the contrast between descriptions of the "clean and tidy" home reported by those who knew the family well and the mess allegedly found by the policemen who burst into it mob-handed on the day in question.

The report found an equally glaring contrast between the social workers' insistence that the child was quite happy to have been removed from her parents, and the abundant evidence, observed at first-hand, that the little girl had an extremely good relationship with her parents and wants nothing more than to be reunited with them. The courts seem to have totally ignored this report, whose author last month expressed astonishment that the child had not been returned home.

What has also come to light is a remarkable judgment by Lord Justice Thorpe and Lord Justice Wall in the Appeal Court last year, in another case which also involved the apparently ruthless determination of East Sussex social workers to send a child for adoption. The judges were fiercely critical. The social workers' conduct, said Lord Justice Thorpe, could only reinforce the suspicions of those who believe "councils have a secret agenda to establish a high score of children they have placed for adoption".

Lord Justice Wall described East Sussex's conduct as "disgraceful – not a word I use lightly" and also as "about the worst I have ever encountered in a career now spanning nearly 40 years". "The social workers in question," he said, appeared "not only to have been inadequately managed, they do not appear to have been properly trained". As for the barrister who represented East Sussex (and who also appeared in most of the hearings in the "dog-breeder" case), Lord Justice Wall said "her attitude came across, to me at least, as – in effect – so what?" She had demonstrated, he said, "profound misunderstanding" of the council's legal position vis à vis adoption. He ordered his comments to be circulated to family courts and adoption agencies across the land.

Though the circumstances are different, anyone reading the documents could not fail to be struck by how many of the judges' comments are relevant to the case I reported. The same council's social workers have again pushed for a child to be adopted in a way which prompts the family's GP to say "the destruction of this once happy family is, in my opinion, evil". And that barrister who was involved in both cases is now – a family court judge.


To view the original article CLICK HERE


"Nothing about it is more suspicious than the contrast between descriptions of the "clean and tidy" home reported by those who knew the family well and the mess allegedly found by the policemen who burst into it mob-handed on the day in question."

Curiously, in the Baby Peter case, the social workers failed to consider the squalid state of the household, which included human and dog feces and rotting animal residue, as to do so would apparently have been considered "judgemental".
Catweazle
on August 22, 2009
at 10:38 PM

So the barrister who was condemned by the judge is now a judge herself. I doubt Cameron is interested in doing anything, but we need a clear out of these judges. The law already provides a mechanism: impeachment at the bar of the house of Lords. Why not? Our Common Law is a dead letter without it.
djw2009
on August 22, 2009
at 10:29 PM


"Destroy the family and you destroy society." V.I. Lenin taught us that pearl of wisdom, and Social Services, local councils and by extension HMG have learned the lesson well.
All part of the plan, British pals. Britain�s fast becoming a police state. So hate it and leave it, while you still can.
Jack, Japan Alps.

Jackthesmilingblack
on August 22, 2009
at 10:29 PM


I have been representing Parents that could easily had their Children removed, Siblings all to be split up, and put into Foster Care, all in the best interests of the Children.
Mother, has been diagnosed with MSBP, a theory that was discredited over ten years ago, a so called medical expert, that is not qualified to make that kind of diagnosis.
The Guardian stated that Mothers personality disorder was having a detrimental effect on the Children.
At Court the Judge, on advice of the Guardian, ordered the Parents to hand over their passports to the Court and the holiday of a lifetime, they had booked over a year ago, at a cost of �3000, would have to be cancelled, on the fear that they would skip the Country.
They were more or less placed on house arrest until an emergency
Family Court hearing last week, they had twice daily visits from Social Workers.
This lovely Family have only managed to keep their Children at home due to the incredible skills of a Children's Panel Solicitor, which we use on a regular basis.
A draft written agreement was drawn up, for the Parents to sign and some of the clauses written into this document was a violation of civil liberties and Human Rights, one clause was that the Local Authority could take pictures of every room in the house, including the loft and that the Parents would have to get permission from Social Workers, to leave their house, for more than a few hours and no GP appointments to be made, without informing the Social Worker.
If they didn't agree, they faced loosing their Children yesterday.
The Solicitors team that represents PAIN clients managed to seal a compromise, with the Court and they would not be allowed to take photographs in the house.
The Family still face months of torment, with Psychological and other assessments without this dedicated team of Solicitors, things could of been a lot different.
Alison Stevens Parents Against Injustice

Alison Stevens
on August 22, 2009
at 10:29 PM

WELL DONE FOR PUTTING THIS IN THE PUBLIC EYE I APPLAUD YOU !
Jane Webb FAMILY JUSTICE GROUPS UNITED
on August 22, 2009
at 09:18 PM


Hi,

Our thanks must go to both Christopher Booker who wrote of this on page 37 of his 1994 book written with Dr. Richard North 'The Mad Officials' which drew its title from a story by G.K. Chesterton before WWI about a British Court abusing parents and children - Just because they could!

This family is far from alone as you will find at:
http://StolenKids-SADS.blogspot.com

which offers help to others with the same plight at:
http://StolenKids-Bloggers.blogspot.com

If you can help or need help this is the place for self help and those who care!

Thanks again to Christopher, Richard & The Sunday Telegraph - these people being abused by the state deserve all the help we can give them.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
http://GregLanceWatkins.blogspot.com

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Wednesday 22 July 2009

SADS011 - MP's FIGHT for SADS FAMILY in HAILSHAM GAZETTE

SADS011 - MP's FIGHT for SADS FAMILY in HAILSHAM GAZETTE

MP takes parents' fight for daughter to the PM


Published Date: 22 July 2009

By Andrew Raeburn

A COUPLE'S fight to stop their seven-year-old daughter being put up for adoption has been taken to the Prime Minister.

Hailsham MP Charles Hendry has backed the parents' protracted court battle and raised the case with Gordon Brown during Prime Minister's Questions in the Commons last Wednesday.

Mr Hendry's intervention comes after appeal judges prevented the couple
ADVERTISEMENT from challenging a court ruling saying the girl was at risk of psychological harm at her Hailsham home.

As reported in last week's Gazette, the girl, then aged five, was taken into care in 2007 after witnessing her parents' confrontation with police at their home.
Judges were told by the couple's lawyer that unsanitary conditions at the house were not typical and the girl, aged five at the time, was happy at home.

But the Court of Appeal said any improvement in the parents' attitudes was 'too little and too late' to give them the chance of trying to overturn an adoption placement order.

The 32-year-old father and his 43-year-old wife, neither of whom can be named for legal reasons, were refused permission to appeal against the order.

But, speaking at Prime Minister's Questions, Mr Hendry said there was no suggestion the girl's wellbeing was at threat and asked to discuss the issue with Mr Brown. The Prime Minister said either he or a minister would meet the MP.

Mr Hendry asked Mr Brown, "Does he share my concern that too often these cases go through the courts in a manner that can do lasting damage to the child and that parents cannot ever hope to match the resources being allocated by the local authorities?

"Will he have a meeting with me and others, so we can discuss this in order to ensure that the children's interests will be paramount and that parents can be assured of a fair hearing?"

In response, the Prime Minister said it was difficult for him to discuss individual cases publicly, but that he or a minister would meet Mr Hendry.

Mr Brown added, "Local authorities are unable to place a child for adoption with prospective adopters without their parents' consent unless they have a placement order issued by the court.

"I should tell him (Mr Hendry) that we have tried to streamline the family courts to make them far more responsive to the needs of all concerned, particularly the children."

A spokesman for Mr Hendry told the Gazette the MP was compiling background information on the case ahead of a meeting with either Mr Brown, or children's secretary Ed Balls.

The parents have publicly stated their intention to challenge the ruling in the European court system.


to view the original of this article CLICK HERE

One is forced to wonder if the police officer from Warwickshire, who has been suspended (no doubt on full pay), as reported in the media this week, for leaving his dogs to suffer a long and excrutiating death in the back of a van, as they slowly cooked in the sun has he had his home raided?

Was the dog mishandler's home raided by 18 police officers, using pepper spray, and virtually trashing it in a pretence of a search, having handcuffed him in front of his children. Then having left his dogs with free roam of the house, did they drag him and his wife off to police cells and lock up his wife whilst she had a miscarriage and will his children be stolen to put them up for forced adoption, without any sign of valid reason?

Is it unreasonable to ask why not since that is what they have done to this family in the Hailsham region, reported on above!

Clearly the police as enforcers for the state are out of control - just consider the number of murders they have carried out, yet without prosecution - see CLICK HERE

It will be noted that today sentencing was handed down in another SS catastrophic failure of duty - where The SS made the decision to leave a small child, registered originally on the at risk register, with its socially inadequate Mother and her boyfriend - both unemployed drug addicts. The autopsy of the child showed from its hair, its exposure to Cannabis Resin and Methadone and found the cause of death was ingestion of Methadone - when the home was searched there were found to be 43 bottles of Methadone (prescription?) within reach of the child!

The sentence for the killers means they will serve 6 months each in prison yet no one from The SS will go to prison for gross dereliction of duty!

Clearly The SS, Police, RSPCA etc. and Family Courts are out of control - to date there has not been one shred of valid evidence led that this family had ever or would ever harm their daughter. This is not Justice nor is it seen to be justice.

Who from the Police, SS, RSPCA, authorities & Family Courts with which lawyers will be forced to suffer one iota of the harm they have colluded in inflicting on the child in this case - what compensation will this family receive that could begin to compensate them for the damage done to them by The State?

Sunday 19 July 2009

SADS010 - PMQs FEATURES SADS - Hansard!

SADS010 - PMQs FEATURES SADS - Hansard!
Hi,

SADS was a matter of Parliamentary debate at Prime Minister's Questions (PMQs) on Wednesday the 15th. July 2009.

Thanks to SADS's MP Charles Hendry for asking Her Majesty's Government in Parliament to intercede on their behalf.

Here is the extract from Hansard.


Q2. [286658] Charles Hendry (Wealden) (Con):

I think that the Prime Minister will be aware of the case of a young girl in my constituency who was taken into care two years ago, at the age of five, and is now being proposed for permanent adoption, even though there is


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no suggestion that her well-being was under threat at home.


East Sussex has a very good reputation for its children’s services, but does he share my concern that too often these cases go through the courts in a manner that can do lasting damage to the child and that parents cannot ever hope to match the resources being allocated by the local authorities?


Will he have a meeting with me and others, so that we can discuss this in order to ensure that the children’s interests will be paramount and that parents can be assured of a fair hearing?

The Prime Minister:


It is of course, as the hon. Gentleman will recognise, very difficult for me to enter into a discussion of an individual case, but if it is essential, either I or a Minister will meet him to discuss this.


Local authorities are unable to place a child for adoption with prospective adopters without their parents’ consent unless they have a placement order issued by the court.


The debate that the hon. Gentleman has about what is happening in his constituency centres on that issue. I should tell him that we have tried to streamline the family courts to make them far more responsive to the needs of all concerned, particularly the children.

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Saturday 18 July 2009

SADS009 - TELEGRAPH - Christopher BOOKER - 18-Jul-2009

SADS009 - TELEGRAPH - Christopher BOOKER - 18-Jul-2009

'Evil destruction' of a happy family
A system involving social workers, police and courts took a child away from loving parents for no apparent reason, writes Christopher Booker


By Christopher Booker
Published: 5:48PM BST 18 Jul 2009

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Two weeks ago I reported as shocking a story as this column has ever covered. It described how a loving family was torn apart when the parents were arrested by police on what turned out to be wholly spurious charges, so that their three children could be taken into care by social workers. As reported on another page, it now seems this awful episode has come to a happy ending.

However a new case has lately been surfacing, if anything even more shocking. This also involved the arrest of two parents and the abduction of their child by social workers, in a story so bizarre that, at last week's Prime Minister's Questions, Gordon Brown was asked about it by the family's MP, Charles Hendry, who has long been concerned with the case because the mother is a vice-chairman of his local Conservative Association. The family's horrified GP says that, in 43 years of medical practice, he has never "encountered a case of such appalling injustice".

I first planned to describe this case in April, but was pre-empted by the draconian reporting restrictions on family cases, which, for reasons which will become tragically clear, have now been partly lifted.

The story began in April 2007 when "Mr Smith", as I must call him, had a visit from the RSPCA over the dog-breeding business he ran from the family home. He had docked the tails of five new-born puppies – a procedure that had become illegal two days beforehand. Unaware of this, he promised in future to obey the new law.

Three days later, however, at nine o'clock in the morning, two RSPCA officials returned, accompanied in cars and riot vans by 18 policemen, who had apparently been tipped off, quite wrongly, that Mr Smith had guns in the house.

Armed with pepper spray, they ransacked the house, looking for the nonexistent guns. The dogs, released from their kennels, also rampaged through the house. When Mr Smith and his wife, who was three months pregnant, volubly protested at what was happening, they were forcibly arrested in front of their screaming five-year-old daughter "Jenny" and taken away. Two hours later, with the house in a shambles – the dogs having strewn the rabbit entrails meant for their dinner across the floor – social workers arrived to remove the crying child.

Held for hours in a police cell, Mrs Smith had a miscarriage. When she was finally set free, she returned home that evening to find her daughter gone. It was the beginning of a barely comprehensible nightmare.

Her husband was charged with various offences connected with the dogs, including the tail-docking, but was eventually given a conditional discharge by a judge who accepted that he was "an animal lover" who had not been cruel to his dogs.

Far more serious, however, was that the social workers seemed determined to hang onto the child, now in foster care, on the sole grounds that they had found the house dirty and in a mess (the "animal entrails" played a large part in their evidence). This was despite the testimony of a woman Pc (who had visited the house a month earlier on a different matter) that she found it "clean and tidy". Two hundred horrified neighbours, who knew the couple as doting parents of a happy, well-cared-for child, were about to stage a protest demonstration when they were stopped by the police, on the social workers' instructions that this might identify the child.

For more than two years the couple have been fighting through more than 100 hearings in the courts to win their daughter back. From a mass of evidence, including psychiatric reports and tape recordings made at meetings with her parents (only allowed in the presence of social workers), it is clear she has been desperate to return home. It is equally clear that considerable pressure has been brought on the child to turn her against her parents,

One particularly bizarre psychiatric report was compiled after only an hour-long interview with the little girl. When she said she had once choked on a lollipop, this was interpreted as signifying that she could possibly have "been forced to have oral sex with her father".

After Mrs Smith alone had been subjected to four different psychiatric investigations, which came up with mixed findings, she refused to submit to a fifth, and this apparently weighed heavily with the judge who last December ordered that "Jenny" should be put out to adoption.

In the Appeal Court 11 days ago, Mr Justice Bodey ruled that, because the mother had refused that fifth test, indicating that the parents put their own "emotional wellbeing" in front of that of their child, the adoption order must stand. When this judgment was reported, an independent social worker, who had earlier been an expert witness in the case, wrote to Mr and Mrs Smith to say he was "horrified" to learn that Jenny was "not back in their care", having assumed for over a year that "she must have been returned home".

Their equally horrified GP, saying that he had never "encountered such a case of appalling injustice", wrote "the destruction of this once happy family is in my opinion evil". So shocked was their MP, Mr Hendry ,that he last Wednesday took the highly unusual course of raising the case with the Prime Minister at question time. Numerous others who know the family well have expressed similar dismay. One neighbour, herself a former social worker, whose own daughter often played with "Jenny", said: "I worked with children in social services for 25 years and I have never seen anything like this. It is disgusting."

What is clear in this case, as in so many others, is that a system involving social workers, police and courts in what is an obviously very close alliance should yet again have left a happy, loving family destroyed for no very obvious reason, Almost equally alarming is the way that system manages to shield itself from the world, through reporting restrictions which it claims are designed to protect the children but which too often end up by protecting only the system itself.

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SADS008 - Colin PETERS' letter > Charles HENDRY MP 18-Jul-2009

SADS008 - Colin PETERS' letter > Charles HENDRY MP 18-Jul-2009

From: cp014d2774 @ blueyonder co uk
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Subject: I want to come home mummy: Aged five, 'Jenny' was torn from her parents
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:52:22 +0100


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1198957/I-want-come-home-mummy-Aged-Jenny-torn-parents-social-workers-RSPCA-raid-Now-court-says-adopted-.html#comments



Dear Charles Hendry,

I am just one of many people who are alarmed and concerned at the plight of the mother and father and their young daughter, who are suffering at the hands of members of the 'system' in your constituency.

I pay tribute to you for your willingness to become involved in this atrocity and for publicly expressing your concern and misgivings about a little girl who has been dragged away from her loving parents by police and social workers, and whose cruel acts have been approved of, and rubber stamped by the judiciary.

In the Holy Name of God Almighty through His Son Jesus Christ, I beg of you to do all in your power to stop this evil, or at least expose it to wide an audience as possible in the hope that public outrage might influence the decision makers.

We are supposed to live in a Christian and democratic country aren't we?

What is Christian about what is happening here?

Democracy is about the will of the people. I cannot, and will not believe that the will of the people would condone this evil.

I ask that all recipients of this email contact you to show their support for your actions in supporting your constituents, and I ask that they contact their own MP, as I am doing, expressing their concern.

There must be something that can be done.

Yours Sincerely,



Colin Peters

Friday 17 July 2009

SADS007 ARGUS - 10-Jul-09 COMMENTS

SADS007 ARGUS - 10-Jul-09 COMMENTS

& this is what the public think of this case - these are the comments from The Argus about Alison Cridland's article which you can read if you CLICK HERE

Your Say YourThe Argusbibble, London (but visit Brighton regularly) says...
5:09pm Fri 10 Jul 09
This is a case of kidnapping by the state. The judges and police are the kidnappers.This is a case of kidnapping by the state. The judges and police are the kidnappers.
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John Steed, worthing says...
6:25pm Fri 10 Jul 09
disgusting situation, shame on the english justice system and on the 3 law lords who were prepared to see this injustice continue ESCC social services have a lot to answer for they are not fit for purpose, they have been disgustingly lax for many years and responsible for much heartache and broken lives, this matter should be taken to the european court of human rights, because in this case two parents & one childs rights have been terribly abuseddisgusting situation, shame on the english justice system and on the 3 law lords who were prepared to see this injustice continue ESCC social services have a lot to answer for they are not fit for purpose, they have been disgustingly lax for many years and responsible for much heartache and broken lives, this matter should be taken to the european court of human rights, because in this case two parents & one childs rights have been terribly abused
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puddingandpi, Brighton says...
7:27pm Fri 10 Jul 09
I think being taken from your family & forced into adoption is more psychologically damaging than seeing your parents involved in confrontations.
Anyway, "they **** you up, your parents do. They don't mean to but they do." I think being taken from your family & forced into adoption is more psychologically damaging than seeing your parents involved in confrontations. Anyway, "they **** you up, your parents do. They don't mean to but they do."
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puddingandpi, Brighton says...
7:28pm Fri 10 Jul 09
I think being taken from your family & forced into adoption is more psychologically damaging than seeing your parents involved in confrontations.
Anyway, "they fvck you up, your parents do. They don't mean to but they do." I think being taken from your family & forced into adoption is more psychologically damaging than seeing your parents involved in confrontations. Anyway, "they fvck you up, your parents do. They don't mean to but they do."
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rs, says...
8:52pm Fri 10 Jul 09
what a shocking story, unless i'm missing something here, this is completly over the top behaviour from social services.

when you have cases such as baby p when they stand back and give the parents chance after chance even with serious physical abuse going on. this doesn't make sense.

the result two heartbroken parents and a child who's old enough to ensure that she will be emotionally scarred forever.what a shocking story, unless i'm missing something here, this is completly over the top behaviour from social services. when you have cases such as baby p when they stand back and give the parents chance after chance even with serious physical abuse going on. this doesn't make sense. the result two heartbroken parents and a child who's old enough to ensure that she will be emotionally scarred forever.
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TheInsider, Brighton says...
9:36pm Fri 10 Jul 09
It is difficult to make assumptions either way in a few paragraphs in a local paper about a child's situation.
I have close friends who have fostered dozens of children for many years and these days children are not taken into care at the drop of a hat.
There has been a move in recent years to keep children with chaotic, drunk, druggie, dysfunctional families as it was considered to be better for a child to be with a parent no matter how capable they were. However, more recently the damage this does is now turning the tide again back to the long-term needs of children.
It's a sad fact of life that even in the 21st century some parents are not able to provide a nurturing home.
It is difficult to make assumptions either way in a few paragraphs in a local paper about a child's situation. I have close friends who have fostered dozens of children for many years and these days children are not taken into care at the drop of a hat. There has been a move in recent years to keep children with chaotic, drunk, druggie, dysfunctional families as it was considered to be better for a child to be with a parent no matter how capable they were. However, more recently the damage this does is now turning the tide again back to the long-term needs of children. It's a sad fact of life that even in the 21st century some parents are not able to provide a nurturing home.
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Bex24, Burgess Hill says...
9:37pm Fri 10 Jul 09
The authorities wouldn't have prevented the child from being reunited with the family if they felt there was no risk. They do what is best for the children at the end of the day, and without knowing the full story how can any of you comment?!
We don't know the circumstancesThe authorities wouldn't have prevented the child from being reunited with the family if they felt there was no risk. They do what is best for the children at the end of the day, and without knowing the full story how can any of you comment?! We don't know the circumstances
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bibble, London (but visit Brighton regularly) says...
10:27pm Fri 10 Jul 09
Bex24 wrote:
The authorities wouldn't have prevented the child from being reunited with the family if they felt there was no risk. They do what is best for the children at the end of the day, and without knowing the full story how can any of you comment?! We don't know the circumstances
You are assuming that the social workers were right.

Have a read here:
http://tinyurl.com/n8dwa8

[quote][p][bold]Bex24[/bold] wrote: The authorities wouldn't have prevented the child from being reunited with the family if they felt there was no risk. They do what is best for the children at the end of the day, and without knowing the full story how can any of you comment?! We don't know the circumstances[/p][/quote]You are assuming that the social workers were right. Have a read here: http://tinyurl.com/n 8dwa8
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dodgy, hove says...
10:53pm Fri 10 Jul 09
This kind of thing is just the start of state domination.
Check out the Badman report on home educators. Pretty soon they will have the right to enter your home uninvited and without a search warrant and be able to question your children without your presence.
As far as the Father "losing it!" any loving parent would do just that.This kind of thing is just the start of state domination. Check out the Badman report on home educators. Pretty soon they will have the right to enter your home uninvited and without a search warrant and be able to question your children without your presence. As far as the Father "losing it!" any loving parent would do just that.
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Chicken and Beans, says...
12:46am Sat 11 Jul 09
bibble wrote:
This is a case of kidnapping by the state. The judges and police are the kidnappers.
Perhaps it's a case of preemptive action, you complete moron. Save the child before she ends up as retarded as her parents.[quote][p][bold]bibble[/bold] wrote: This is a case of kidnapping by the state. The judges and police are the kidnappers.[/p][/quote]Perhaps it's a case of preemptive action, you complete moron. Save the child before she ends up as retarded as her parents.
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Sweepster, Brighton says...
7:31am Sat 11 Jul 09
The parents were given the chance to 'prove' they can parent this child. They were assessed by an independent psychologist who then gave their report to the court. There is a lot more to this than this short article.

No child should be left to live in an volatile environment.The parents were given the chance to 'prove' they can parent this child. They were assessed by an independent psychologist who then gave their report to the court. There is a lot more to this than this short article. No child should be left to live in an volatile environment.
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Acheron, Hove says...
7:32am Sat 11 Jul 09
Insider is right here, we've got so little information to go on from this report and it is rather onesided. All that is reported is the parents arguement, and every parent would say just about anything to get their own child back, its totally natural. Unforturnately with some parents 'saying' is all that happens, the doing or changing doesn't.

It's very easy to bash social workers, they are an easy target when they do act and when they don't, putting them in a no win situation. While I'm not saying this case is anywhere near the same, we only have to look at the Baby P case to see what happens when they don't act.

Taking a child away from the family home won't have been done on a whim. Conditions were described as unsanitory. That doesn't happen just because of an arguement, thats something that happens over time.

The judges will have had a large dossier of information to make their decision, if they thought the social services had over-reacted it would be clear. It's ashame the Argus didn't report more on the other side of the story, just putting the parents view is bias and bound to cause an emotional reaction.Insider is right here, we've got so little information to go on from this report and it is rather onesided. All that is reported is the parents arguement, and every parent would say just about anything to get their own child back, its totally natural. Unforturnately with some parents 'saying' is all that happens, the doing or changing doesn't. It's very easy to bash social workers, they are an easy target when they do act and when they don't, putting them in a no win situation. While I'm not saying this case is anywhere near the same, we only have to look at the Baby P case to see what happens when they don't act. Taking a child away from the family home won't have been done on a whim. Conditions were described as unsanitory. That doesn't happen just because of an arguement, thats something that happens over time. The judges will have had a large dossier of information to make their decision, if they thought the social services had over-reacted it would be clear. It's ashame the Argus didn't report more on the other side of the story, just putting the parents view is bias and bound to cause an emotional reaction.
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Osama bin there, Brighton says...
9:26am Sat 11 Jul 09
They sound like hideous parents who don't deserve to have children.
Other than that, due to the lack of evidence in the article, I can't comment.They sound like hideous parents who don't deserve to have children. Other than that, due to the lack of evidence in the article, I can't comment.
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puddingandpi, Brighton says...
12:32pm Sat 11 Jul 09
rs wrote:
what a shocking story, unless i'm missing something here, this is completly over the top behaviour from social services.

when you have cases such as baby p when they stand back and give the parents chance after chance even with serious physical abuse going on. this doesn't make sense.

the result two heartbroken parents and a child who's old enough to ensure that she will be emotionally scarred forever.
My cousin was the foster carer for baby P & her grandfather is a convicted paedophile, so they didn't check her out very well, did they?
[quote][p][bold]rs[/bold] wrote: what a shocking story, unless i'm missing something here, this is completly over the top behaviour from social services. when you have cases such as baby p when they stand back and give the parents chance after chance even with serious physical abuse going on. this doesn't make sense. the result two heartbroken parents and a child who's old enough to ensure that she will be emotionally scarred forever.[/p][/quote]My cousin was the foster carer for baby P & her grandfather is a convicted paedophile, so they didn't check her out very well, did they?
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Sweepster, Brighton says...
12:45pm Sat 11 Jul 09
puddingandpi wrote:

rs wrote:
what a shocking story, unless i'm missing something here, this is completly over the top behaviour from social services.

when you have cases such as baby p when they stand back and give the parents chance after chance even with serious physical abuse going on. this doesn't make sense.

the result two heartbroken parents and a child who's old enough to ensure that she will be emotionally scarred forever.
My cousin was the foster carer for baby P & her grandfather is a convicted paedophile, so they didn't check her out very well, did they?

If everyone that was related to a sex offender was barred from working with children there would not be many people available to work. [quote][p][bold]puddingandpi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rs[/bold] wrote: what a shocking story, unless i'm missing something here, this is completly over the top behaviour from social services. when you have cases such as baby p when they stand back and give the parents chance after chance even with serious physical abuse going on. this doesn't make sense. the result two heartbroken parents and a child who's old enough to ensure that she will be emotionally scarred forever.[/p][/quote]My cousin was the foster carer for baby P & her grandfather is a convicted paedophile, so they didn't check her out very well, did they? [/p][/quote]If everyone that was related to a sex offender was barred from working with children there would not be many people available to work.
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yorkie44, Woodingdean says...
5:00pm Sat 11 Jul 09
The people who think this is wrong should rememeber that about 1 child a week is killed by their parents. In most cases the parents are known to have problems themselves - obviously.

After the Baby P case there could be some over-reaction but what is best a dead child or a child in care?

The real problem is how has this country got to this state when children are increasingly at risk from their own parents?The people who think this is wrong should rememeber that about 1 child a week is killed by their parents. In most cases the parents are known to have problems themselves - obviously. After the Baby P case there could be some over-reaction but what is best a dead child or a child in care? The real problem is how has this country got to this state when children are increasingly at risk from their own parents?
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rs, says...
6:17pm Sat 11 Jul 09
yorkie44 wrote:
The people who think this is wrong should rememeber that about 1 child a week is killed by their parents. In most cases the parents are known to have problems themselves - obviously. After the Baby P case there could be some over-reaction but what is best a dead child or a child in care? The real problem is how has this country got to this state when children are increasingly at risk from their own parents?
there's no mention of the child being at any physical risk:

"They were good parents, she said, and their daughter, now aged seven, had been happy at home and there was no question of her having been harmed in any way.

Yet, at the age of five, she was taken away from them within hours of the incident, had remained in foster care ever since and was now up for adoption.
[quote][p][bold]yorkie44[/bold] wrote: The people who think this is wrong should rememeber that about 1 child a week is killed by their parents. In most cases the parents are known to have problems themselves - obviously. After the Baby P case there could be some over-reaction but what is best a dead child or a child in care? The real problem is how has this country got to this state when children are increasingly at risk from their own parents?[/p][/quote]there's no mention of the child being at any physical risk: "They were good parents, she said, and their daughter, now aged seven, had been happy at home and there was no question of her having been harmed in any way. Yet, at the age of five, she was taken away from them within hours of the incident, had remained in foster care ever since and was now up for adoption.
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Tye, Brighton says...
5:22pm Sun 12 Jul 09
this is truly a terribly sad story.

i wonder how these people can sleep at night?

It does remind me a little of "One flew over the cuckoos nest?"

a brain op on a patient who did not conform with authority so he was "taught a lesson"this is truly a terribly sad story. i wonder how these people can sleep at night? It does remind me a little of "One flew over the cuckoos nest?" a brain op on a patient who did not conform with authority so he was "taught a lesson"
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SADS006 Argus - 10-Jul-09 Alison CRIDLAND

SADS006 Argus - 10-Jul-09 Alison CRIDLAND

Sussex couple lose battle to stop daughter's adoption3:00pm Friday
10th July 2009

By Alison Cridland »

A couple whose daughter was taken into care more than two years ago after she witnessed their belligerent confrontations with police and teachers have failed in a final court bid to prevent her being adopted.

Three appeal judges in London held that any improvement in the parents' insight into their own attitudes was "too little and too late" to give them the chance of trying to overturn an adoption placement order.

The 32-year-old father and his wife, 43, who live in Hailsham were refused permission to appeal against orders granted to East Sussex County Council by a judge at Brighton County Court.

The Court of Appeal was told that the bitterly contested case had involved no fewer than 73 hearings.

Alison Ball QC, for the mother, said that chaotic and unsanitary conditions found at the couple's home by police during a heated and confrontational incident in April 2007, during which the girl saw her father handcuffed, were not typical.

They were good parents, she said, and their daughter, now aged seven, had been happy at home and there was no question of her having been harmed in any way.

Yet, at the age of five, she was taken away from them within hours of the incident, had remained in foster care ever since and was now up for adoption.

Miss Ball claimed the parents, whose immediate reaction was that their precious child had been kidnapped, were not given a proper chance to disprove a finding that they put their own interests before the welfare of their child.

The father admitted he had "lost it" on occasions - including the confrontation with the police and an incident at their daughter's school - and the mother was now willing to undergo a psychological assessment of her abilities as a parent.

Miss Ball urged Lord Justice Thorpe, Lord Justice Longmore and Mr Justice Bodey to cancel the adoption placement and make a further interim care order pending an assessment of the parents.

But Mr Justice Bodey, giving the court's judgment, said that, "sadly for the parents", there were no grounds for challenging the county court judge's finding that the girl was at risk of psychological harm


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SAD005 - Telegraph 09-Jul-09 Murray Wardrop

SAD005 - Telegraph 09-Jul-09 Murray Wardrop

Couple fail to prevent daughter being adopted after 'kidnap' by social services
A couple yesterday failed in a two-year legal battle to prevent their daughter being adopted after they claim she was "kidnapped" by social services.


By Murray Wardrop
Published: 7:00AM BST 09 Jul 2009

The girl was taken into care in 2007 after police and animal welfare officers raided the parents' home, but she has never been returned to them since.

The parents, who cannot be named for legal reasons, have fought in vain at 73 previous court appearances for the right to bring up their own child.

Yesterday, they took their case to London's Court of Appeal where they applied for the right to appeal against a final decision in March that their daughter be placed with foster parents.

However, their application was turned down on the grounds that their level of cooperation with social workers came "too little and too late".

It is claimed that the girl was taken into care despite being "thriving and happy" in the care of her parents.

The court heard that concerns over the child's welfare were first raised in April 2007 when police and RSPCA inspectors visited the couple's Sussex home.

Acting on reports that they were docking the tails of dogs - a practice which had just been outlawed at the time - 18 police officers raided the property and arrested the couple.

Their daughter was taken into care by East Sussex County Council after she was left "traumatised" by the "chaotic" scene and the sight of her parents being handcuffed.

Social workers raised fears for the child's emotional wellbeing due to her parents' allegedly volatile behaviour during the raid and at a subsequent contact meeting with the girl.

There were also concerns about the cleanliness of their home after officers found the walls and floors caked in dog faeces and dead rabbits, the court heard.

However, the mother's barrister, Alison Ball QC, claimed the incident was a "one off for a family where the child was being well looked after and happily brought up".

She said: "She (the girl) did appear to be a child who was thriving and happy in the care of her parents.

"They (the parents) saw it as their child being kidnapped, and one can see why.

"They woke up one morning and the police and RSPCA came into their house, and within a few hours their child was taken away and they have not had her back since."

Ms Ball added that the parents "overreacted" at a series of court appearances, talks with social workers, and contact meetings with their daughter because they feared there was "no way of getting their child back".

She said this was "unhelpful" and that their lack of cooperation ultimately led to the courts' decision for the girl, now aged seven, to remain in care.

The court heard that the couple underwent four psychological tests, to assess whether they were fit to look after their daughter.

When these produced conflicting results, a fifth assessment was ordered.

After the parents refused this, a judge issued a care and placement order.

At yesterday's hearing, the mother said she was now willing to have a further assessment, but her husband said he would not.

Representing himself in court, the father said: "If no one can answer after four assessments what kind of parents we are, there has to be something wrong with the handling of the case.

"The parents have been forced to jump through every hoop and the child has been pulled backwards.

"I think it's now time to bring us back together as a family because this is what our daughter needs." However, Mr Justice Bodey, sitting with Lord Justice Thorpe and Lord Justice Longmore, refused their application to appeal.

He said the judge who issued a care and placement order for their daughter in March had given them every opportunity to cooperate, so that their child could be returned to them.

The judge said the fact the mother had agreed to a psychological assessment, but the father had not was "too little and too late".

He added that the previous judgement had said the parents had failed to put their child's emotional wellbeing before their own.

Following the ruling, the mother fought back tears and shouted at the judges: "Why can't I fight for my child?"

However the couple last night vowed to continue their battle. In a statement outside court, they said: "The fight goes on.

"If it is a case of taking it the next step, to the European Court, then so be it."


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SADS004 - Shannon SIMS WAS TAKEN BY THE SS because of THE RSPCA

SADS004 - Shannon SIMS WAS TAKEN BY THE SS because of THE RSPCA

LITTLE MIRACLE CALLED SHANNON
Published Date: 26 June 2003


AN Eastbourne woman became the first in Britain to have a child through a controversial new fertility treatment – four years after NHS staff wrongly labelled her husband infertile.
Debra Sims, 38, of Brodrick Road, fell pregnant after taking part in an 'egg giving' programme.
She is now the proud mother of a beautiful baby daughter named Shannon.



But Debra spoke of her nighmare at the hands of NHS experts, who wrongly branded her husband Tony as infertile for THREE YEARS after getting his files mixed up with another man's.
The couple had been trying for a baby for 12 months before seeing a specialist.
However, NHS fertility doctors told them they had little – if any – hope of success.
Debra said that during the ordeal, when she nearly gave up on having a baby, her marriage came close to collapse and she was even driven to contemplate suicide.



She said, 'I only went through all the treatment because we were told my husband was infertile.
'The clinic for IVF patients was in the same place as the maternity unit. When you had an appointment you would be sitting there for five hours before you were seen.


'Try sitting there for that time when there are pregnant women walking in and out. It used to devastate me. I used to think I can't take it any more.'
Debra only realised the specialists' blunder by chance, when she spotted the name on his file was wrong.


'I said, 'That's not my husband'.
The file had a completely different christian name on it. But they maintained it was his file and they insisted Tony was infertile.


'That was until we pointed out the age on the file was also different to my husband's. All they said was 'Oh dear, it looks like we've made a mistake'.


'I was disgusted. To think that we had gone through years of hell for nothing and that Tony had been told he was infertile was devastating.'


But then, just a few weeks later, Debra saw an advert in the Evening Standard which read, 'Women wanted to give eggs'.


Debra said she answered the advertisment simply to have her eggs tested. 'I wanted to see if I could have children,' she said.


The clinic was the Logan Centre for Assisted Reproduction in London and the man in charge of the programme was Professor Ian Craft.


Debra gave a number of her eggs free of charge which were to be used by another woman who was unable to produce her own.


But Debra said, 'The professor told me I had a few problems of my own but he could help me.'
Using her own eggs and Tony's sperm, Debra fell pregnant after the second round of treatment.
Trials of the treatment were launched in 2001 following Debra's success. Professor Craft formally launched the cut-price fertility treatment this week. The programme will cost women who agree to donate eggs £950, compared to around £2,500 for full-price private IVF treatment.


Critics, who include Lord Winston, claim it will exploit women, especially those who cannot afford the full cost of IVF treatment and might be tempted to donate some eggs in exchange for the chance to try for a bargain price test-tube baby.


But Debra said, 'More and more women are deciding to have babies later in life. At least one in four of those will have a problem with fertility.


By the time they find out they've got a problem and get seen and dealt with, they're 40 and told that they're too old for IVF. They have to face being childless forever.


'That was the prospect Tony and I faced.


'But Shannon is our little miracle.


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SADS003 - Debra SIMS & BABY SHANNON - THEN THE SS!!


SADS003 - Debra SIMS & BABY SHANNON - THEN THE SS!!

Baby joy for 'infertile' couple

first published Wednesday 25th Jun 2003.

A woman gave birth to a baby girl four years after she was wrongly told her husband was infertile.

Debra Sims, 38, fell pregnant after becoming the first woman to try a controversial new fertility treatment.

She is now nursing a healthy daughter named Shannon but has told how, during her ordeal, she had almost given up hope of having a baby, her marriage was close to collapse and on her darkest days she even contemplated suicide.

She and her husband Tony had been trying for four years for a baby but NHS fertility doctors had told them there was little hope.

With Mr Sims unemployed, there was no chance the couple could raise the thousands of pounds needed for private IVF treatment.

However, following years of heartache, Mrs Sims found the NHS had confused two files and wrongly told her husband, 12 years her junior, he was infertile.

She made the discovery after approaching Professor Ian Craft, of the Logan Centre for Assisted Reproduction in London, who she had heard wanted to run a controversial private project called Egg Giving.

She was told she could receive the treatment for free and agreed to be the first to try it.

Mrs Sims, of Brodrick Road, Eastbourne, said: "When I was told Tony was infertile I was devastated. I wanted children so much and being told I was unlikely to have any made me want to kill myself. My marriage almost broke up because of the pressures and I was a nervous wreck.

"I was disgusted to find out it was all a lie and that Tony had a healthy sperm count. We have been through hell for nothing."

The egg giving procedure means women donate a cycle of eggs, stimulated from the ovaries with drugs, to an infertile woman.

In return, the donor has IVF treatment, using a second cycle of her eggs, for £950 - seven times less than the average private cost and about half of that on the NHS.

Mrs Sims fell pregnant with the second cycle of eggs, using her husband's sperm.

She spoke of her joy at giving birth to Shannon, now 15 month old, yesterday when Prof Craft began offering the treatment to other woman at a cost of almost £6,000.

The Prof launched the treatment, trials of which began in 2001, following Mrs Sims' success.

Critics, including fertility expert Lord Winston, said it exploited women. Fertility support groups gave the scheme a cautious welcome, saying there was a dire shortage of so-called altruistic donors in Britain.

Mr and Mrs Sims, however, care little about the controversy. Mrs Sims said: "Shannon is our little miracle."


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SADS002 - AN OBSCENE LEGAL TRAVESTY

SADS002 - AN OBSCENE LEGAL TRAVESTY

Child snatched in RSPCA raid must be given up for adoption, rules judge


IS THIS MAN IN HIS FANCY DRESS JUST AN EVIL SADIST HIDDEN BY THE TRAPPINGS OF AN ARCANE SELF IMPORTANCE?

it does look as if debbie's mp has doubts!


Hi,

there are times when one wonders whether one should be proud to be British or whether it is a cause for shame - there are increasingly causes for shame - any decent moral individual must be ashamed of having Blair as a Prime Minister with his lies, his criminality, his much vaunted perversion, his smug indifference, his abuse of Parliament, his crimes against humanity, his war crimes and the staggering number of innocent people who have been slaughtered in his name based upon his lies.

Then there comes a moment when one is more personally touched as with the obscene travesty of justice below.

Shortly after the whole sorry shabby saga began Fenris Wolf who I have known for many years put Debbie in touch with me.

Fenris is best known for her involvement with animals and I was much in touch during the period I was working to save animals from the ghastly mismanagement and slaughter of animals during the Foot & Mouth Virus where they so obscenely, needlessly and cruelly slaughtered so many animals - have a look at Fenris' web sites and see if you can help at:
RSPCA-Animadversion
http://cheetah.webtribe.net/~animadversion/
SHG
http://the-shg.org/
RSPCA Injustice Blog
http://www.rspcainjustice.blogspot.com/

I, like Debbie, have been angered and disgusted by the behaviour of The RSPCA, The Police, The SS and The Courts and interestingly so was Debbie's MP and various Barristers who tried to help.

If this is British Justice then the soon our Government is shut down and run by The EU the better - however I do not believe this IS British Justice I preffer to believe it is something of a 'one off', as are all the other 'one offs' I seem to be embroilled in assisting in.

Whether we are talking of the 'one off' of the massacre in Iraq, the 'one off' of the obscene liar Tony Blair (now we have Brown!!), The 'one off' of Generals doing NOTHING whilst in office and bravely speaking out once they have secured their pensions - surely they must be 'one offs'.

The 'one off' of Holly who as a Downs Patient was passed around as a sex toy! The 'one off' when her mother was held down and had her knickers removed was injected and dragged off to custody leaving Holly to the tender mercies of her abusers, One Offs do all too often seem to involve the vile Families Courts with their policy of secrecy, control, intimidation and abuse.

Fortunately they are 'one offs' so let us NOT surrender to the serial abuse of EU Corpus Juris and vassal status just yet!


Child snatched in RSPCA raid must be given up for adoption, rules judge

By Tom Kelly

Last updated at 7:51 AM on 09th July 2009

My Stories Too little too late: Appeal Court judge Mr Justice Bodey said the parents had been given ample opportunity to help

A couple who say their daughter was 'kidnapped' by social services yesterday lost a two-year legal battle to stop her being adopted.

The child was taken away from her parents at the age of five after they were arrested for failing to co-operate with police during a raid on a dog-breeding business run from their home.

But the girl had never been physically harmed and was 'thriving and happy' before being taken away, the Court of Appeal was told.

The mother, a 43-year-old former vice chairman of the local Conservative Association, and her husband, 31, launched a desperate legal fight to try to get their child back.

But yesterday, after 74 separate court hearings, they were told that they had failed to show they could put their daughter's 'emotional well being' before their own and that she should be adopted.

Alison Ball QC, for the mother, told the hearing: 'As the parents saw it, their child had been kidnapped.

'They woke up one morning and the police came into their house and within a few hours their child was taken into care and has not been returned since.

She acknowledged there 'may have been some behavioural issues' but added: 'This was not a case where the parents have broken the children's bones.'

As the judge refused permission to appeal, the tearful mother cried out: 'Why can't you let me fight for my child?'

Concerns about the parents had been raised when the father threatened staff at her school after an unfounded claim that a teacher had hit the child, the court heard.

A few weeks later, in March 2007, the police and the RSPCA raided the family home after a tip-off that the father was mistreating dogs.

After the parents refused to allow a search, 18 officers using pepper spray descended on the house, prompting 'chaotic scenes'.

In front of their daughter, both parents were handcuffed and arrested, with the father hurling abuse at the officers.

Police who carried out the raid said the house was covered in rabbit entrails and animal excrement.

The child's bedroom also had a hole in the roof and the duvet was filthy.

The couple claimed most of the mess was caused during the raid and that they were about to move house, which is why the bedroom was in such a state.

A policewoman who had visited the house a month earlier on an unrelated matter said that it was a clean and tidy house and that the girl seemed 'happy.'

The child was taken into care by East Sussex County Council following the raid, and later put into the care of foster parents.

When the couple were allowed to see their daughter a week later the father 'lost it' and confronted social workers, which scared his daughter, the court heard.

Miss Ball said this was because he feared for his child's welfare after the building they met her in was surrounded by 'rubbish, dirty nappies and syringes'.

The parents also underwent psychological tests to assess if they were fit to look after their child. The results were conflicting and a judge ordered a fifth test.

When the parents refused, the judge ordered the child to be put up for adoption at a hearing in March.

Yesterday the mother said she was willing to undergo the new psychological test. But the father said he did not want to as this would further delay getting their daughter back.

But Appeal Court judge Mr Justice Bodey said the parents had been given every opportunity to help the court. The fact that the mother was now prepared to have the assessment was 'too little too late', he said.

The couple released a joint statement vowing to fight on. 'If it is a case of taking it to the next step, the European Court, then so be it,' they said.


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I commented:

I know these parents (Debbie & Tony) and have received many phone calls seeking assistance & support (especially from Debbie AND she has been working closely with a freelance media friend of mine, Dennis Rice, whom I introduced her to).
I do NOT believe the Court Verdict is fair, honest or just.

Consider in context: the judge said they had done too little, too late yet in the 2 years since their daughter was kidnapped by The SS they have been in Court hearings 74 times (YOUR REPORT!) that averages out at too little being a Court apprearance almost once a week!

That they turned up shows no sign of indifference.

Were this the ONLY case where The SS get it tragically wrong I MIGHT believe it, but it varies from gross abuse in SS Homes, to Baby Peter, to Oliver & Melissa in Plymouth - she a nurse and he a care assistant having their children stolen due to a Doctor's wrong diagnosis as proven!

What about Holly who received a cash settlement for her Mother Ann to take the case no further!

How many people are PERFECT parents? We all do the best we can but I can assure you Debbie & Tony go that extra mile.

Good Luck Shannon

There is a limit on Daily Mail comments of 1,000 words or I would have gone on to say:

1. when running a commercial kennels it is clear they used fresh food.

2. No evidence of cruelty to animals was EVER substantiated the initial raid looks all too much like a 'fishing expedition' - Tony was right to resist forced entry without the correct paperwork - no search warrant seems ever to have been produced.

3. Yes perhaps Tony IS short tempered in defence of his family (are you?)

4. If the home was filthy why did the Police Woman say it wasn't?

5. What state would YOUR home be in after 18 police officers and various RSPCA had trashed it?

6. Did I mention the photos used by the police showed almost new white furniture upended and the linings cut to search for non existent drugs?

7. When preparing food for dogs in the kitchen skinned rabbits, tripe and entrails which ARE dog food are always unattractive - had it been as the Court implied there would within mere hours have been many flies and maggots if it was not fundamentally clean?

8. Was the allkeged hole in Shannon's room a hole in the roof as claimed or a hole in the ceiling made by a clumsy oaff of a copper trying to plant drugs as evidence? The rest of the police evidence seems unsound!

9. 18 Police with pepper sprays to overpower a small child and her parents - Where are we Chile!

10. In my conversations with Debbie I have observed sadness, anger, betrayal, confussion, despair, astonishment, determination but NEVER indifference - we all manifest our emotions differently and how Debbie kept going I do not know!

11. They had their child stolen, without any visible coherent reason, their home trashed, their business destroyed and some clown of a Judge has the timerity to criticise how they handled these catastrophies - how would he handle his systematic destruction by a self serving monolithic uncaring State? We note how some amongst his number handle problems they either screw their illegal Phillipino maids, assault their partners or jump from high buildings!

12. One only has to visit the bars in the proximity of the Inns of Court to understand how seriously other peoples' lives are treated by all too many Barristers & Judges! It seems with all the integrity and probity one finds with their chums the bankers!



I want to come home mummy:

Aged five, 'Jenny' was torn from her parents by social workers after an RSPCA raid.

Now a court says she must be adopted...

By Paul Bracchi and Dennis Rice

Last updated at 10:57 PM on 10th July 2009

We reveal disturbing questions about the fate of this bewildered child who faces fears of abandonment for years to come but who just wants to come home to mummy and daddy
Much-loved: 'Jenny's' parents are devoted to their daughter


The recording begins with the sound of a child's voice. It belongs to a little girl and she is clearly bewildered and distressed.

At one point she begins to cry. At other times she is sobbing uncontrollably. 'Have you seen the judge yet?' she can be heard asking pitifully in between the tears before pleading: 'I want to go home with [you] Mummy and Daddy.'

The recording - and dozens of others just like it - was made during a supervised meeting between the youngster and her parents after their daughter was taken away from them by social workers.

They are known as 'contact visits' in the soulless vernacular of the care system, and took place in a room with a table and chairs and a few toys.

One hour. Once a month. That's the extent of the relationship now between this little seven-year-old girl and her traumatised parents.

There are some parents who do not deserve to see their children more than once a month. Irresponsible parents. Neglectful parents. Abusive parents.

According to care workers, the mother and father of this little girl were found to fall into this category after their home was raided by the RSPCA and at least 18 police officers to deal with a complaint about supposed mistreatment of dogs.

But what if social workers have got it wrong? In the light of Baby P and so many other scandals, it's hardly impossible is it?

Certainly, the recordings stored on a computer at the family's home on the South Coast seem to contradict the damaging claims by social services that the girl, whom we shall call Jenny - the girl's real identity has been suppressed by the courts - did not wish to return to live with her parents.

Jenny's father spent months taking down every word of the recordings by hand, only to be told by a judge that they had to be professionally transcribed.

By the time they were, it was too late. Moves to put Jenny up for adoption were under way.
This week, after 74 separate court hearings over two harrowing years, the family finally lost their fight to have Jenny returned to them.

The Court of Appeal in London ruled that their daughter must be given up for adoption. If and when she is, they may never see her again.

Jenny was five when she was taken away, and seven now. Before we examine the peculiarly troubling details of this case, it is worth considering the comments of the family's MP, Charles Hendry.

He says:
'This case has concerned me more than any other in my 13 years as a member of Parliament.' And, he went on to describe Jenny's mother and father as 'devoted parents'.

Furthermore, one of the experts brought in to examine the child's removal, a psychiatric social worker, concluded the local authority had 'mismanaged the case'. Needless to say, his advice was ignored.

They are not lone voices: more than 200 local people, including neighbours, friends and members of the couple's church, planned to take part in a march through their village shortly after the family's ordeal began in April 2007.

Posters were printed, which read 'Social Services Have Kidnapped Our Daughter. Please Help The Fight To Get Her Back Where She Belongs.' Above the words was a picture of Jenny.

Of course, you won't have read about the protest, because it never took place. The march was just about to begin when the police, acting on the advice of social services, stepped in.

'It's hard to go into my girl's room without crying'

They warned Jenny's parents they risked being jailed, as they had broken the law by identifying their daughter on the placards.

Just another example of the terrifying lack of transparency that now surrounds the removal of children from their families.

Reforms to open up cases such as Jenny's to public scrutiny were introduced earlier this year. But the truth is, an almost Stalinist culture of secrecy still exists in family courts.

Jenny was never physically harmed, and was 'thriving and happy before being taken away', the Court of Appeal was told.

One of the reasons for the decision was that Jenny's father had been unwilling to undergo a further assessment.

Wouldn't other parents in his position have done the same?

After all, the case had already dragged on for two years and he believed yet another 'assessment' would delay the tortuous process even more.

Yet, here we are today on the cusp of Jenny being spirited away from her family for ever.
No one suggests that Jenny's parents - whom we'll call Susan and Richard - are perfect. But over the past few weeks, our reporters have come to know the family. And one thing seems undeniable - their love for their daughter, and her love for them.

Jenny is a beautiful child with a mop of chestnut hair. She loved ballet, swimming and Susan and Richard paid for her to have private tennis lessons.

Her bedroom - with her own ensuite bathroom - in the family's home is almost unchanged from the day she last slept there.

Her favourite pink teddy bear is still sitting under the windowsill. And a collection of her videos are on a shelf.

'She loved Grease and pretending to be Olivia Newton-John,' her mother told me last night as her eyes filled up with tears. 'It's hard to come into my daughter's room without crying.'

Susan, in her 40s and involved in her local Conservative Association, used to be a beautician before becoming a fulltime mother - that was how important her child was to her.

Her husband Richard, 32, runs a dog breeding business from their home. They have been married for 13 years.

They were just a normal, happy family, it seems, until the RSPCA, backed up by 18 police officers, arrived at their house early one April morning in 2007, following a tip-off that dogs were being mistreated, and that there might be guns in the house.

No guns were ever found. No criminal charges were brought, nor does Richard have a criminal record.

He was later, however, convicted of docking the tails of his puppies. But the raid was to have far more catastrophic consequences.

Both Richard and Susan were arrested for failing to cooperate with officers. By the time they were released from custody later that day, Jenny was the subject of an emergency protection order.

So an operation which had begun for entirely different reasons had ended with the heartbreak of their daughter being taken away.

There were two reasons for what happened, and both have been bitterly contested by the family.

The first was the state of the house. Police said it was covered in rabbit entrails - used as food for the dogs they raised - and animal excrement.

The couple claim most of the mess was caused during the raid. They say, the doors were left open, allowing the dogs in. Normally, they insisted, their home was 'clean and tidy'.

Only a few weeks earlier a policewoman had visited them - after a puppy had been stolen - and backed up what they said.

She also said that Jenny was 'happy'. Their home, it should also be stressed, was always immaculate when we visited the couple.

Attention was drawn to the fact that there was a hole in a downstairs bedroom ceiling. But the family point out that a pipe had recently leaked and could not be repaired until the beams had dried out. It has now been fixed.

Nor, it was claimed by the authorities, were there any clothes for Jenny in her wardrobe. Did the police look in the wrong wardrobe - the one in her parent's bedroom?

The wardrobe in Jenny's own bedroom, her parents say, was full of her belongings.

'We always put Jenny first,' said Susan. 'We have receipts from Monsoon [the fashion store] proving we spent hundreds of pounds on Jenny in the couple of months before she was taken from us. If anything, we spoilt her.'

The second reason, according to social services, that Jenny was not returned to her parents, was that she had apparently made it clear she didn't want to return to the house.

But why would she? Jenny was later diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) following the raid.

'They were raided like criminals, it is disgusting'In fact, it would be impossible to imagine a more traumatic situation than the 'chaotic scenes' which unfolded at the house that morning and which culminated in her mother and father being led away in handcuffs.

In other words, not wanting to return home didn't necessarily mean she didn't want to be with her parents.

Those tapes made during 'contact meetings' in which she tearfully begs to be returned to her 'Mummy and Daddy' would seem to confirm this.

'She was hysterical when the police came in,' says Susan. 'It's the damage they have done to our little girl which really concerns us. I fear she will never be the same.'

There is also another sad twist to this troubling story. Susan and Richard didn't just lose Jenny that day.

Susan was three months pregnant with twins. She says she was in a police cell when she began to miscarry.

'I started bleeding heavily and knew that could only mean one thing,' she said. 'I was taken to hospital where doctors confirmed my worst fears.'

Even so, she was taken back to the police station later, where she says she suffered another haemorrhage. 'I rang the buzzer and they brought me sanitary towels. Later, I was allowed home.'

But another nightmare was just unfolding. Susan was charged with neglecting Jenny - on the strength, she says, of the conditions in the house.

Three months later, all the charges were dropped.

Many would also argue that this is when the social services case against the couple should also have been dropped.

But, like other families who have been through a similar experience, once they were in the 'system' they found it impossible to get out.

Support: MP Charles Hendry said the case has concerned him more than any other in 13 years as a member of Parliament

It is a view supported by their MP. 'I was very concerned about the case from the outset,' says Mr Hendry.

'Every time I have attempted to discuss it with the director of children's services for the county council, I have been told they cannot discuss it because of the legal proceedings.

'What it has brought home to me is how difficult it is for parents to get back a child once a decision has been made to take the child away.

'It is clear to me they are devoted parents whose only goal is get their child returned. I have never seen the evidence to justify taking their daughter away from them.'

In fact, the 'evidence' is based on the testimony of two independent experts. Two others gave the couple positive assessments. But let's deal with the critical reports.

One 'expert' suggested, after spending just one hour with Jenny, that she had been sexually abused by her father.

And the proof? He came to this conclusion, it seems, after Jenny had described choking on a lollipop which, so the expert said, could 'signify the child being forced to have oral sex with her father'.

There was indeed an incident, says her mother, in which Jenny got a lolly (a sugar-free one from the health shop, incidentally) stuck in her throat when she was playing.


'She started coughing,' says Susan. I thought: "Oh my God, she is choking." I patted her on the back and she was OK.'

The second expert concluded that Susan and Richard were suffering from 'paranoid personality disorders'.

On one occasion, the police were called when Richard began taking photographs of the social services centre where a 'contact meeting' with Jenny was taking place.

Why? Because the grounds of the building were littered with syringes and mounds of rubbish - not a fit place, he claimed, for them to meet their bewildered child.

'The social workers didn't want to challenge these experts, at all,' says Richard. 'I would say to them: "Where is the evidence for this allegation or that allegation?" Or "produce a witness".
'They felt we were being obstructive to the local authority's care plan. But what we supposed to do? Just give up. We would never do that.'

The allegations about the sexual abuse and the paranoia were dismissed by other experts, including Dr Peter Dale, a psychiatric social worker, who concluded the local authority had 'mismanaged the case'.

They made, he said, fixed assumptions about the parents at the outset, and had not done the necessary investigations to check whether those assumptions were correct.

Dr Dale said: 'Jenny had suffered significant harm as a result of being removed from her parents, and was likely to suffer fears of abandonment by them for some time to come and would be particularly at risk during adolescence.

'She needed urgent therapeutic input to help her make sense of what had happened to her.'

He continued: 'Plans for reunification [with her parents] should be established on a very urgent basis.'

Instead, Jenny is being put up for adoption. If Susan and Richard refuse to accept the decision, they could be prevented from ever seeing their daughter again. It is an outcome which their neighbours and friends can barely contemplate.

One couple are among dozens of people who have supported the couple in their desperate fight to get their only daughter back.

The pair, who have both worked in social services, say they are 'disgusted' with the way the case has been handled, and yesterday insisted the parents were 'the best mother and father a child could wish for'.

The 44-year-old woman, says: 'I worked with children in social services for 25 years and I have never seen anything like this.

'We have been friends with the family for about five years and the only criticism I could ever make of them is that they love their little girl too much. They spoil her rotten.

'She has spent a lot of time in our home playing with our daughter, who is a bit older, and our daughter was always over at their home.

'She is a bright, funny, intelligent child. She is always happy and giggling. Every time we saw her she was immaculately dressed, often showing off a new frock or jewellery.

'The way they were raided like criminals and their child snatched from their arms is disgusting.

'There are so many children out there who do need to be monitored by social services, as demonstrated by Baby P. This little girl is not one of them.'

Last night, Jenny's mother, tears rolling down her cheeks, described the impact on the family.

'I go to bed thinking about Jenny and I wake up thinking about Jenny,' she said. 'There's hardly a moment in the day when we are not thinking about her. It's torture.

'To think that our beautiful daughter is probably going to be advertised on a social services website is unbearably painful.'


No one - particularly a newspaper - has a copyright on wisdom in tragic cases such as this. But surely - in the name of justice - there are too many questions raised by the couple's MP, neighbours and independent experts, for anyone to be certain that it's right for Jenny to be torn away from her biological family.


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IF YOU are as disgusted by this obscene concept of 'Justice', carried out in YOUR name, may I remind you I have known Debbie and had MANY long conversations with her to try to help as best I could, commencing when her daughter was first stolen by the State - I believe her and I have neither seen nor heard of ANY evidence of mistreatment or cruelty, either to Shannon or to their dogs.

The Country is littered with the broken lives of children raped and sodomised by parents, boyfriends, priests and social workers - Shannon almost choked on a lollipop once when there are children being systematically starved!

Tony Blair's political agent went to prison for the rape of children in his care, wards of the State and whilst on bail to the Court he was invited by Blair to a pub to drink with Bill Clinton & other leaders - this is the measure of our 'one off' State's depravity!

This verdict after 74 hearings without one shred of evidence against Debbie & Tony is a disgrace and even the Courts have heard from Doctors that the child has been harmed by the DUE PROCESS and the obscene travesty carried out by The State.

Do bear in mind that every word that Dennis and the other journalists have written, not only corroborates what I have heard and know but also the Lawyers of The Daily Mail have corroborated the story to ensure their paper was not sued.

PLEASE - PLEASE send a copy of this Blog to everyone you know with YOUR name added at the end after mine - I accept the full liability for publishing this on the internet and the full liability for its circulation.

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There are others who are prisoners of the State let us first free this family.

Do you remember Jon Venables & Robert Thompson who stole a child and abused him, little Jamie Bulger had batteries shoved into his rectum, paint smeared in his eyes, was kicked slapped and punched - was tortured and had stones thrown at him to kill him aged 3.
Robert Thompson and Jon Venables KNEW the awfull wrong they had done and they placed his broken body on a railway line to destroy the evidence!

John Venables & Robert Thompson have been given new identities, security and a new life in Australia.

Jamie Bulger's Mother will NEVER have a reprieve and the events destroyed her marriage and her life, just as did Ian Brady and Myra Hindley destroy the lives of the parents of Pauline Reade, John Kilbride, Keith Bennett, Lesley Ann Downey & Edward Evans.

Fred & Rosemarie West destroyed many lives by their actions.

I do not condone The State destroying the lives of Debbie, Tony & Shannon by kidnapping Shannon - the actions of the State may pretend to be in my name but they are shamefull and evil based on all the available evidence.

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http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk
Monday to Friday 9.00 am to 5.00 pm

Then continue on until it hits 1,000, before you
email the list again.
TO: Public.Enquiries@HomeOffice.gsi.gov.UK
attention The Home Secretary.

PLEASE also send a copy to:
Dennis B. RICE (DennisRiceMedia@yahoo.co.UK)
newsdesk@notw.co.uk
News@MailOnSunday.co.UK
Editor@Spectator.co.UK
News@The-Sun.co.UK
News@Sunday-Times.co.UK
News@Telegraph.co.UK

SEE ALSO: http://www.MoneyForYourStory.com

There is power in numbers & these petitions do help.
Maybe it'll prevent another child from a violent
death & maybe it'll get greater, more appropriate
convictions for these criminals, whatever their age.

Please take a few seconds to forward this petition to your
mail list & don't forget to add your name to the list.

PLEASE NOTE Your signature is only valid if you give
your NAME (or clear initials)
+ Street Number
+ Town
+ County
+ Post Code / Zip Code
+ Country

Thank you.

YOU CAN LOCATE A FRESH COPY OF THIS PETITION AT:
http://gl-w-docs.blogspot.com/2009/07/gl-w002-obscene-legal-travesty.html

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A COPY OF THE PETITION & DETAILS.
REMOVE 0001 > 1,000 and start your new Petition
with YOU in position 0001

Thank YOU.

YOU CAN ALSO LOCATE A FRESH COPY OF THIS PETITION AT:
http://gl-w-docs.blogspot.com/2009/07/gl-w002-obscene-legal-travesty.html
Or Just CLICK HERE

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OR Just CLICK HERE

PLEASE HELP